• Move PostgreSQL wallet storage out of experimental state when the wallet is moved to Aries
  • Start cross-organization PR reviews after PBFT View Change is shipped, as an experiment
  • We want to move quickly with the Indy / Aries split and avoid long term maintenance of Indy SDK if possible.
  • Incomplete request format refactor
  • Trade-offs of new pack/unpack versus msgpack

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  • Hyperledger Maintainers Conference: Minneapolis in October.
  • Bootcamp Russia: Event Location
  • IIW

Summary of Prior Call

Release Status

  • Indy Node
    • August: 1.9.2
    • September: 1.10.0
      • PBFT view change
      • Indy Node and Indy Plenum support for Ubuntu 18.04
  • Indy SDK
    • August: 1.11.1
      • Finish Authors vs Endorsers
      • Finish proof of possession of payment address
      • Platform Updates: Ubuntu 18.04
    • September: 1.12.0
      • Fully qualified DIDs
        • Dependent on DIDDoc support? (Daniel's document and David Huseby's work)
      • Platform Updates: MacOS, CentOS
    • Future
      • GitLab migration alongside Jenkins (Foundation)?
      • Aries / Indy split
      • Anoncreds 2.0 (Sovrin Foundation,
  •  Ursa
    •  Working on release of 0.2.0 (September / October)
      • ZKP  / ZKLang improvements
      • Debian packages
      • Refactor internal plumbing for anoncreds 2.0, shouldn't impact external interfaces
      • Refactor multi-signature BLS in addition to aggregated signature
  •  Aries
    • Lots of progress on language libraries, frameworks, and agents.
  • Indy Catalyst
    • Production deployment testing: volume loads.
    • Won't go live in production at until October.
    • Not yet migrated to Hyperledger. Needs more documentation.

Work Updates

  • Documentation improvements: Michael B and Stephen C
    • Need to review and prune out-of-date documentation (Alice / Faber treatment of pairwise DIDs is a key pain point)
    • Michael is working on Indy Agent walkthrough using C#
    • Finishing work on ReadTheDocs (2 more weeks?)
    • Cloud Compass is building the Linux Foundation EdX courses for Indy and Aries
  • SDK 2.0 architecture / Indy-Aries split (Sergey)
    • Anxious to start moving, and iterating.
  • GitLab migration (Mike and Steve G)
    • Demos in the Identity Implementers WG calls
    • Issues with Jenkins machines because Rust builds run out of memory—workaround increased build time but is a temporary solution
  • Advanced Schemas and W3C creds (Ken)
  • Warnings from rust cargo clippy (Mike and Axel)
    • IS-1270 through IS-1274
  • New design for revocation / Anoncreds 2.0 (Mike)
  • Getting Ursa artifacts published that can be used by Indy Node and Indy SDK (Mike and Cam)

Other Business

  • PostgreSQL leaving experimental status (see previous discussion)
    • Would like to update existing issues first.
    • Ian will be going on vacation.
    • Kiva is interested in helping.
    • Want to see this happen this year, but maybe wait for the Aries Wallet repo? (Kiva prefers to do it in Aries.)
  • Maintainership requirements for Indy Node and Indy SDK
    • Don't worry about new maintainers for Indy SDK now, wait for Aries decisions.
    • Need for cross organizational review.
      • Should define the process, including how we handle exceptions (emergency fixes shouldn't be blocked, but would require notification)
      • After PBFT view change (middle of October).
      • Ken and Cam can do the reviews of Evernym work.
      • For now, Alex will continue reviewing everything.
      • Alex should train other reviewers on how to do good reviews.
  • How long should we maintain Indy SDK after we start work on Aries core libraries?
    • Will need to understand the Aries plan first.
  • Partially completed refactoring of the Request format: INDY-1375 and IS-567
  • New pack / unpack requires disclosure of recipient
    • Cannot hide the receiver of the message like we could with msg_pack
    • Allows having multiple recipients of the same message
    • Should list the drawback in the Aries-RFC? Is there an alternative way that preserves the capability to selectively disclose the recipient?
    • From Kyle Den Hartog
      msg_pack presents problems when dealing with an agent that maintains more than one relationship. For example, if I receive a message, I don't know which key in my agent I should be using to decrypt the message. We can get sender anonymity or receiver anonymity, but I don't believe it's possible to get both and still determine who the message is for.
    • Pack/unpack only exposes the Verkey of the recipients. It does not do forward secrecy.

Future Calls

  • Define pull request review process for Indy Node.
    • Should define the process, including how we handle exceptions (emergency fixes shouldn't be blocked, but would require notification)
    • What is important in a good review?
  • Fully Qualified DID support in Indy SDK
  • fuzzing libindy
    `cargo +nightly fuzz run fuzz_target_1 -- -only_ascii=1`
    Worried about unsafe code in libindy
    ignisvulpis@namenlos:~/development/hyperledger/indy-sdk/libindy$ find src -name \*\.rs -exec fgrep unsafe {} \; | wc -l
  • Ursa and AMCL:  Discussed in the Ursa call (August 21), but no decision yet.
  • Architecture questions for Indy SDK:
  • How to handle old pull requests that failed DCO Checks? Close?
  • How to handle pull requests for IOS / Swift wrappers? Close and encourage the move to Aries?
  • How to handle pull requests for LibVCX? Deprecate?
  • Close PR as something that will be replaced by the advanced schema work?
  • HIPE pull requests:

Action items

  • HIPE #138, Issue #144 (Ken and Brent)
    • Create a PR for changing status to ACCEPTED
    • Check for an Aries RFC

Call Recording