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No call on December 25

Agenda

Attendees

NameOrganizationEmail Address 
Vipin Bharathandlt llc dba dlt.nycvip@dlt.nyc
Darrell O'DonnellContinuum loop
Kelly CooperIndependentkellycooper.2ds@gmail.com
Anchit

Dan BachenheimerAccenture
Darrell ODonnell

LasseDeutche Busse?
Luca BoldrinInfocert and Sovrin Steward
Marvin Bertechereasantus
Julie Esser

Ravikant AgrawalBC Consultant
Stefan Mouy

J ShimLG and SSI Meetup Korea
Jim MasonFabric projects and Boston Meetup
Drummond Reedevernym Chief Trust Officer
Bobbi MuscaraLedger Academy
Darrell ODonnell

AxelRed Hat
Richard Esplin

Sumit Kumar

Marvin Berstecheresatus AGm.berstecher@esatus.com
RolandAerosurete
Ron Kreutzer

Moad Misrar

SymPact


Minutes

Quick Introductions

Darrell O'Donnell - Digital Wallet

Over a year ago started a report to understand the landscape of: what is a digital wallet and what do we need to understand so we can plan for the next few years in the digital lifecycle? The lack of clarity causing problems: developed report - A Talk by Darrell O'Donnell on Digital Wallets



Q&A

Drummond - the core terms you are using - one of the things we've seen is there isn't consistent usage of the terms. For example, 'wallet'. Different communities and vendors are using the term differently. What definitions or directions have you seen? 

  The Sovrin Indy is shifting away from key management system. A wallet, at minimum, needs to be able to store, retrieve, interact with various parties. What is an agent? A communication agent? Credential exchange? Sovrin Indies/Aries - to me not a config file. 

Dan; TC 307 CD 22739 says: 3.84 wallet application used to generate, manage, store or use private and public keys (3.62, 3.65) Note to entry: A wallet can be implemented as a software or hardware module.

Vipin: Without connectivity or storage of credentials - need fully functional system to manage and expose credentials. 

Drummond: Exploring terms, trying to pull out different definitions to help those in industry start to recognize and arrive at common benefit. One customer usage of the word wallet a clear superset of the ISO definition. Mobile app you would be using on a smart phone for everything you do as a holder of credentials as an SSI holder.

Darrell: The term wallet resonates with people. In deep tech used key management system. Darrell notes - some of the terms have been locked down way before they should have. Blockchain is still an emerging space. People consider their personal wallet a part of their identity. Different credit unions - the definition is not near enough. 

Dan: The ISO has not been finalized - CD = committee draft.

Vipin: Two views: a) not the time to finalize. b) we should be engaged with TC 307. There is a message from Todd Little (Oracle), he wants to engage with the community. Large commercial interests may be driving ISO due to the membership requirements. 

Tension between setting standards too early and setting standards too late. 

Dan: There are corporate folks and national standards bodies represented, not only commercial interests. 















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