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Kayila: No one talked about anonymous anything. Confusion. One of the SSIs proposed the capacity, if one chooses, to have derived subattributes (over 18, resident of district x) ZPK work in sovereign Hyperledger Indy ecosystem. If we want to have a conversation about the past, how can we get from where we are not to a cool future, States that currently, issue credentials shift to issuing verifiable credentials into people's wallets. Then people use that credential for whatever they want, in a decentralized world.

Vipin: Consider a paper driver's license. Phone home is only when there is an issue such as pulled over by police, but not with a merchant. Different levels of access. How can we have something similar in a digital context?

Nitin: India has a digital locker, DigiLocker

Kayila: It's not decentralized. This is where language gets into the way. Around decentralized identity, the terms mean any institution can issue any credential to any people it wants. Once issued into the digital wallets that they control. There's an ecosystem possible you don't get from a centralized provider, whether commercial or governmental.

Nitin: This credential would be derived from the base credential of  Aadgaar.

Kayila: Verifiable means it's cryptographically signed, it does not mean it comes from one particular resource. ie University can issue verifiable credentials into their wallet. The local salad shop can issue a verifiable credential every time someone buys a salad. The broad data format that can apply to a vast range of use cases. Think about how to get out of particular use cases. University may want an official government card when you enroll but the salad shop won't care. 

Nitin: Standardized format...

Kayila: Yes, W3.org. Used across the ecosystem.

Vipin: Buying chai in a shop, nonstandard, but 'I' follow w3 credential group proposal. A program that reads that will be able to make sense of that, to a certain extent. Conundrum, all of these systems, how do we propose a way to transition to this new way of doing things. Sounds great, but no one does this today at scale?

Kayila: Emergence - this year will be big for production deployments. There have been large scale pilots




Ajay and Vipin had a recent conversation on Consent.

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