Erika: Okay.
Erika: hey, Elizabeth? Hey? To us.
Elisabeth Green: Hi, Erica, can you guys
Tomaz Sedej: thanks for coming? Yeah. I'm just giving people a couple more minutes, maybe 2 min. of course.
Elisabeth Green: Okay, I was trying to reach you because there was a a Grant proposal available. And I was thinking
to help us out.
Elisabeth Green: We need to find somebody with an eim to reply for the to the letter of intent.
Elisabeth Green: and the only the only person willing was in India they don't have a
Elisabeth Green: so that is the next funding round, which is, I think, in October.
Erika: I didn't. How did you try to reach me? I didn't get it.
Elisabeth Green: Oh, I just look your name through the Hyper Ledger meeting. I I can find your email address.
Erika: Really, I had to. I had your hypothesis members. I went through that whole list.
Erika: Yeah, I know that I I had signed up on our Hc. Sig Directory and my email. My email might be old in there, because it's when I used to work for Ibm so I know I'm in there, but I don't think I even know how to add myself to the
Erika: Directory, so I'll have to. I'll have to do that. I'm sorry about that.
Elisabeth Green: It's okay. It was only about $250,000. It was for mentorship for the project I'm working on.
Erika: Okay. And then what you needed, someone with what type of experience.
Elisabeth Green: Oh, well, so right now we've moved into I I moved into a hackathon, and I found one partner from Duke University
Elisabeth Green: and Now we need somebody in AI and in blockchain to do the back end because we were I I did the HTML. She's going to do the Javascript. We need somebody to do it back in.
Erika: Yeah, I don't know that I could have helped you with that. Okay, yeah, I don't. Really. I have a little bit of experience working with Watson, but it was mostly in the capacity of the database that I write for in healthcare, because I'm a pharmacist, but I didn't do a lot of work with that, and I haven't had any other other real experience with it.
Erika: And I've done some blockchain projects. But I didn't work on anything technical or yeah, I'm not sure I could have helped you, anyways. But thank you for thinking of me.
Elisabeth Green: Okay.
Erika: okay, so I guess we'll go ahead and get started. I I claim the host. I haven't hosted this meeting in a long time, and I haven't really been in the space much at all. So I'm taking over for Ray Ray for this meeting. He is on. He's doing some traveling, and he's going on his honeymoon so very exciting.
Erika: Yeah, I hope he has a great, great time, and I think I think he's going to be on his honeymoon when I host the Tw. The next meeting I know, on the 20, fourth, or whatever day that is so hope he has a great time, and he did send me a couple of agenda items, and then I I gathered some other ones and but if anyone has anything to share, I'll just bring up the agenda here.
Erika: hmm, okay. Can everyone see the agenda for today on the screen?
Elisabeth Green: Yes.
Erika: Okay. So yeah. welcome to the hyper legend, health care, special interest, good meeting. I'm Erica. I'm hosting for Ray. I'm a pharmacist, and I've done some work in the blockchain healthcare space in the past, and
Erika: So I have been co-chair of this group for several years back, when Mike Mccoy was the chair I was the co-chair, but As I said, I haven't really been in the space. So I'll I'll go through this as I can. meetings are recorded and we have a Youtube Channel playlist. So we would appreciate if people would subscribe and and if you ever miss the meeting, you can watch on that that channel.
Erika: So if there's anybody new to the group, if you please, introduce yourself. I, Syria. I'm not sure I haven't seen. I haven't been to every meeting, so I'm not sure if you're new.
Erika: So if you want to say a few words about yourself, that'd be great.
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: that's very good. I suppose it this morning for you people right? yeah. How you doing so?
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: 7, 30 pm. For me I'm from India.
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: so I'll I'll see you at race. In a sense, this my full name and I have my started name, renewal elevations, Private Limited it is we are working on. I voted with blockchain, that is a goal.
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: So like both sides. And for hypothesis, scalability. That's it. Research oriented. Also, we are going on, and applications especially the clean and green tech we are into healthcare is also enough of what the mind so like. I have been in touch with the so that
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: probably like this particular meeting I am attending the second time, I suppose, other than that the Mondays meeting I instructed.
Erika: Well, welcome. Thank you so much. for sharing. And yeah, what? What? What is? What does your company do? Using the blockchain?
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: we? They will have
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: applications like for in the energy side in the healthcare side
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: like. we need the transparency, and like
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: many that in notabilities beauty of blockchain. And when we work in the medical data like
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: there are
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: seem a little bit useful for many practice.
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: That's interesting.
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: Yeah. And this is, we are still, it's just a budding chatter.
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: So we are in this staffing stage. So not all the projects are implemented in live as is most of the projects. The one that is being implemented is currently the energy side.
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: So like.
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: you know, just like that, that full application we are developing currently by the in line.
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: Okay, wonderful, wonderful. That's very exciting. I wish the best of luck to you.
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: Thank you and thank you for attending.
Erika: All right. let's see. So
Erika: yeah. So consider posting your contact information in our Hcc. Member Directory. that's where people can go and kind of network and figure out who else? they'd like to contact
Erika: and and network through through that site. And then real quick, we have the. I'm just going to bring these up. This is a Linux antitrust policy.
Erika: and so that's that. And then you can read through that at your leisure. And then the antitrust site, which is basically saying anything that you say in this meeting?
Erika: yeah, there's industry competitors. And we can talk to all our activities in accordance with applicable anti-trust and competition laws. so anything that you say, you know, could be could be shared.
Erika: all right. So Does anyone have any announcements they'd like to share with the Hcc community?
Erika: Okay, And then we have a hyper ledger member job word. And then we if you want to make an announcement there or or on our discard channel or via our email list, serve.
Erika: And I think the email list serves a great way to make any announcements, or or get get yourself out there, too, because it goes out to all the members.
Erika: The next is the groups to join.
Erika: So Ray Ray had put together a bunch of telegram groups and discord groups and slack groups that people might be interested in joining health unchanged as a podcast that rate us
Erika: blockchain for science and women and web 3. These are all great groups on telegram that that you can join and then on discord. I know discour can get a little a little bit crazy. I know that I'm I. I have like 12 different channels that I'm on, so I can't keep up with all of it. And one day I hope there's a better way for everyone to communicate. But
Erika: we have a hyper ledger disc work group distributed to health is a great one. I've kind of been a part of that one since they started and there's a lot of people in national national area on that site and hasht this part of that. So there's it's there's not. There hasn't been a lot of updates lately, but it's a good place to go
Erika: if you kinda want to put yourself out there. If you have a startup, or you want to get more information molecule. Vita dow side out is one that I'm a part of. It's
Erika: It's yeah you using it. They fund psychedelic research and in health care. It's an interesting one, and they're pretty active. And then Dsi world.
Erika: And then as far as slack. If you have slack research, hub is a good one to to join.
Erika: Okay, moving on to upcoming events. I want. I was hoping Wendy Charles would be here today. But she's not. There's a great webinar. I'll just go to this link. It's actually today. It's at 110'clock mountain standard time, and it's the ethical implications of blockchain tap with Wendy. Charles.
Erika: oh, this is just the registration. But yeah. So Wendy's an expert and like regulatory stuff, and she's super super knowledgeable. She actually teaches the course in Denver on blockchain for the university.
Erika: and this would be a great webinar to attend. If you have time to go today, they're gonna explore the ethical implications, implications of using blockchain technology and how blockchain can be used for social good. she's a great speaker. So if you ever, or if you do have time to go today, I would highly recommend it, and it's free.
Erika: okay? And then I put this one up here. There's a big conference going on in Denver. Psychedelic Science. this is one of the biggest conferences in the world, and all of the pioneers of using psychedelics for therapy and psychedelic assisted therapy will be here for a week. Doesn't really have much to do with Web 3. But you know, in connection with side out and things like that there, there probably will be some
Erika: some of that going on. A lot of it is just about how to how the current state of research is going. helpful ideas on how to do psychedelic assistive therapy which is now legal in Colorado with silos. 7. So should be a really interesting conference. I don't think they're doing an online version. But I live in Denver, so I'm excited to be a part of it.
And then sin bio beta! I don't know what this is, so I'm going to go to it.
Erika: Ray had posted this synthetic biology industry conference. Oakland. Oh, you know, I think, where I went to this, and this actually already happened. So I forgot to take that off. So hope that was good. But that's in the past.
Erika: and then, of course, the con v, 2 acts, global blockchain and Helping Healthcare Conference
Erika: in New Orleans. This is a really big conference for blockchain and health care. I've actually been to it. there's a lot of good speakers. and it's it's part of the blockchain in healthcare today. Puts it on. And they're they're also a good resource. If you're looking for articles.
Erika: for the current literature. But current research and blockchain and health care, it's a great, a great resource. And this Conference is is a great conference. I went to it in Boston like 3 or 4 years ago, and it's really all the big stakeholders and blockchain and health care there, it's a great place to network. So yeah, and I, I, they also have an online version of this conference. So you can always sign up for that if you can't make it in person. But yeah, this is probably the biggest one around for blockchain and healthcare, and that's coming up
Erika: on New Orleans in September. So I'd recommend that one as well.
Erika: Okay, so we have kind of a short list of discussion topics for today. Ray had sent some of these over, and also
Erika: I added a few, and some of them have nothing to do with health care. Some of them do so. There's a mix and the first one is this one and we can. I've I've only kind of skimmed over these, but this is prim on this is a fertility app. Find $200,000 for leaking customer health data. This is, definitely a a concerning thing and a hot topic, especially with reproductive rights. This information getting leaked out.
Erika: And really what I thought it was interesting here, because they had. They had agreed to only
Erika: only share de identified data. non-identified data. but but they ended up sharing data that was ident identifiable. such as Wi-fi network names and hardware ids. And they shared it with 2 china based data analytics companies.
Erika: so basically, people could find out who was using a fertility app which was not good. Obviously
Erika: so. yeah, this is, they're being fined. And I had never heard of this pretty mom at before. But I thought this was an interesting thing to share, because there is so much debate around. I know in the Us. We have very strict rules with the hipaa on what constitutes de identified data for personal health information, protected health information. So this I thought this was interesting.
Erika: Does anyone have any comments on this? Or I want to discuss anything with regard to this.
Erika: Okay, we'll move on to the next next one. I posted this one. I thought it was. I thought it was an interesting reference. so the World Economic Forum just posted a whole big thing on regulation.
Erika: And they they they talk about using a global approach. And I'm not going to download the Pdf, it's pretty long. But
Erika: it talks a lot about the challenges of of creating like a complete global regulatory structure and not just focused on each country. And it's a great I I skimmed through it. And it's a great read if you're interested in regulation and their take on on a global approach to that.
Elisabeth Green: Does it say whether it applies to asset, back tokens or fiat? Fix it again? Treasury?
Erika: I believe it does. I do believe they go through that. I only skimmed over it. but yeah, you can take a look and see
Erika: they do talk about. They do talk about that. They talk about what tokens are considered securities and asset back tokens and things like that in here. but yeah, I haven't had a chance to to read it completely over yet, but, as you can see, it's
Erika: hmm.
Elisabeth Green: How do they define crypto? Does it include dollar bills, and
Erika: I don't know I haven't read the whole thing over.
Elisabeth Green: What do you think is this? Is this a regulatory body that with authority that you would respect.
Erika: Yeah, I do. And the world the world economic, for for sure they they're definitely looked at as a source of unbiased good information. And they put they've set a lot of guidelines before that. I that have been referenced by a lot of people, a lot of respect to people in the community. And I think that they are good. A good reference. Yeah.
Erika: So that's kind of why I put this out there because I thought it was a pretty big deal.
Elisabeth Green: Do you? Did you find out who actually
Elisabeth Green: did the analysis and came up with the recommendations? Was it scientists or economists?
Erika: let's see, it's got the women in here.
Erika: So she's a data pole dial policy for Blockchain Center for Fourth Industrial Revolution in in India a world at the moment she wrote this. I don't know exactly what her background is, but it seems like she's more of like a blockchain specialist, and I don't know if there was other people within
Erika: the group that contributed to this
Elisabeth Green: world economic forum, it's it has the word economic right in the middle, right? I know I have to be trusted. What about little signs for them? If they came up with when I'd be more interested?
Erika: Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense.
Elisabeth Green: It's an economic tool. But it's a scientific tools.
Tomaz Sedej: Yeah, maybe, Elizabeth, I can, you know, for my 2 cents here. So you know, regarding the regulation of crypto assets, and generally regulation about blockchain more broadly. you know, there is actually quite some bodies working on it, you know. So we do have
Tomaz Sedej: It's Hyper Ledger. We recently got joined by a European Blockchain Association, and we have a Inad Bob, which is the International Association for trusted blockchain applications. we have European blockchain service infrastructure. These are, the 2 bodies, the 2 main bodies through which a European Commission interacts with blockchain community.
Tomaz Sedej: you know. And obviously, we do have a lot of this a regulation. But you know by its nature, the blockchain is a global one, right? global technology. And we, the interoperability between this you know, between different pockets of this ecosystem is very important.
Tomaz Sedej: And I think one of the biggest part about the regulation is that you know, if you have you know. Obviously, you have local regulations, right? But how do they interact with each other. So right now, we do have a lot of people working on that. But it would be difficult to say. It's you know that we have
Tomaz Sedej: right now one globally accepted framework for regulating creep to essence right? But a lot of work is being done. It's obviously very important, because, you know, without it how can we move forward right, and trust the the date and the assets and and you know, get it, get more adoption globally.
Tomaz Sedej: just just the thoughts on it. So thank you for sharing this. It's good to know that there is a new regulation. I wasn't aware of that or a proposal at least.
Erika: Yeah, yeah, I've seen just in reading through it. It seems like it. It goes through a lot of basic stuff. and then I haven't.
Elisabeth Green: Oh, sorry. I keep my screen. And it doesn't solve those problems. It just brings them up.
Erika: It seems like it. Yeah, it seems like it's sort of an overview. But I do know that people look at their their stuff, and it's definitely
Erika: you know, conserve a good source. But you know I don't really know if they're tackling. They have any new ideas like you said.
Erika: Okay, but that's out there. If you want to take a look. I haven't had a chance to really look at it. The next thing
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: I want to put a few words like in my in India chapter, we had women in blockchain, that is, this last Saturday and the previous Saturday like
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: we conducted one event. So this Saturday, mainly, we focused on this regulations because there was a panel discussion. Even I was part of that bailing way for regulatory compliance in about 3.0. So that 3 point go, if you take it, it is
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: basis, blockchain rate.
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: So we
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: so it was, very good. And they have many countries. Actually, they are
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: working on the regulations, right? And then more than 1015 countries. It is exactly in place.
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: not a cross border one, but inside the country like for the organization from taxation to like
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: that is inside the jurisdiction. It is happening. But we want it around the world.
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: I
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: I'm the movie
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: I don't like. like, Hyper Ledger can work along with many people and create some common framework.
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: So we need some open source people to chip it right? Otherwise, like, it will be built. I like regulations are much needed when we when regulations are in
Anasuya, BiniWorld Innovations Private Limited: place like what? 3.0 can also be like a reality.
Erika: Yeah, thank you for sharing that so exciting. I'm glad that you're doing a women in blockchain, and I agree that you know the regulations are kind of siloed right now. So it would be nice to have more of a global approach for sure. Thank you so much for sharing
So the next the next one is not really related to health care either, but I thought this was interesting. it was kind of all over the news. It was about how A group of leading technology experts have warned that artificial intelligence should be considered a societal risk and prioritized in the same class as pandemics and nuclear wars.
Erika: So yeah, this was I heard about this on Npr, and yeah, that's it's interesting that they're coming. You know, some of the big people coming out, that's created a lot of these things like check to chat. Gpt, Google, deep mine have come out and said these things. And it is concerning, and I think that it's good that they're coming out and and making these statements and and treating it like, you know, as something.
Erika: you know, that could have potential implications.
Elisabeth Green: There's a $100,000 prize for people, I think they they have 20 of them.
Elisabeth Green: for anyone who comes up with the guardrails and safeguards necessary for AI to to function.
Elisabeth Green: They really want to get it out, and that's a prize that I think
Elisabeth Green: it it's worth noting that. I don't know any human factors, engineers who are
Elisabeth Green: actually writing up the guardrails and safeguards for a and I. It's just sort of a
Elisabeth Green: one of those
Elisabeth Green: things that just getting out there as soon as they getting it out there before it's finished. Product? But I do. I do, because I'm a human factors engineer. I'd love to have been the one to work on that before it got out there. It's over.
Erika: Yeah, yeah, that's that's amazing. and I, yeah, it's crazy that there haven't been gargoyle set up. And I'm glad that they have these these these prizes out there because it's it needs to be figured out for sure.
Erika: but it's a great assistive device for people with low it. Just think.
Elisabeth Green: you could. Actually. it's a real
Elisabeth Green: field it. Really even to feel even the playing field for people with low IQ.
Elisabeth Green: They all they have to do is ask, they have all this intelligence now that they didn't have before. it's it's it's wonderful. And I I I've never used it. But I do know that.
Elisabeth Green: yeah, I don't see it as a threat, because I see all of these failure modes as being something that doesn't affect me. It affects maybe people who are younger or more co-carsable. Or
Elisabeth Green: it seems to be that.
Elisabeth Green: Yeah, I see the failure effects. I see the failure modes, and I I would know how to
Elisabeth Green: prevent it from bothering me.
Erika: Not everybody has that education. And and I wish they did a lot of people don't. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting for my work. I synthesize literature and and analyze literature. For in healthcare publications, for drugs to assign ratings for off level uses. And they're saying a lot of the work that I do could be taken over a little bit by by chat. Gpt, So it's interesting how many, how many different things it'll it'll replace to.
Elisabeth Green: I'd say the main problem that it would have that might affect me is that it could whip up a mob against any one person
Elisabeth Green: by manipulating people.
Erika: I I hadn't thought about that, Elizabeth. That's a great point.
So yeah, even more
Erika: need for some guard rails
Tomaz Sedej: that that was actually an interesting one. We just reminded me now that Elizabeth mentioned it. I was reading that recently, you know, when you get this capture. And then, if you want to go to a website that, and then you have to choose. I don't know what traffic lights are like, you know. Be a prove that you're not a robot right?
Tomaz Sedej: And I think that they they did sort of a challenge for the AI if they can get around it. but you know what what it did, instead of trying to sort of break break through it. It actually just hired a person on upwork or something like that. Pay them sort of like promise them to pay if they we solve that for them. So basically, it manipulated that human
Tomaz Sedej: to do it for it. And that's how it got into the into the website.
Elisabeth Green: You know, I have a coercion checklist that's helped me.
Elisabeth Green: Yeah, maybe I'd be able to now start selling it because people would be concerned about being coerced before. They never were. They always thought, it's fun to be coerced by human beings. It's it's you trust
Elisabeth Green: is manipulated through touch, and when somebody holds somebody's hand it
Elisabeth Green: increases their trust in them. And suddenly they're trusting somebody who they really can't trust. And it it gets people to give money over, and to give their life over and have their babies all kinds of things, and nobody's ever thought about it until now.
Elisabeth Green: But I mean. how, how, how much more has AI done that a human being hasn't done to manipulate people?
Elisabeth Green: Truly no more. It's no more dangerous than
Elisabeth Green: the clever manipulator.
Erika: right? But we just don't have control over it, or it. It can go, rogue, but I think you should. I think you should come up with something, because I think it would be useful and you could sell it.
Erika: okay, any more comments on this.
Erika: Okay.
Erika: okay, so this also has an a with health care, but big news in crypto, with the sec. Filing the complaint against finance. and then also there. I guess today there was a class action suit to against finance today. for for profiting off of stolen crypto funds.
Erika: so yeah, this was a big deal. I think it was on the fifth
Erika: I'm sure everyone's heard about that, because the market kind of crashed after this and then now it's back up again. But yeah, I thought it was funny. They they talked about
Erika: 13 charges accusing the company of Mr. Salo of unlawfully soliciting investors and customers, and is representing the degree of trading on the platform and misleading the public about its oversight.
Erika: All kinds of things. And then they they talked about how he bought like a a huge yacht with the money and they're seeking to ban finance in the Us. And sent Bitcoin down more than 5%. Which isn't
Erika: that crazy? But yeah, I thought this was just big news. So I wanted to share it.
Erika: any. Yeah, I subsequently purchased an 11 million other guy. any comments on this.
Erika: All right. So the next 2 are about health care. Ray has submitted this one. It's a really cool summary of 6 mental health organizations in Tech and the web. 3 different things people are doing. because it was a mental health awareness month, I believe, last month.
Erika: so there's 6 in here. The first one is mental health collective, which is a nonprofit that provides free and accessible mental health support.
Erika: peer to peer support via Twitter spaces.
Erika: so it's just a community log for safe space within the web. 3. And all you have to do is sign up on their website and give you access to their discord.
Erika: And you can support by donating. So yeah, I think it's interesting.
Erika: I'm not sure how they how they establish privacy with that. But
Elisabeth Green: yes.
Elisabeth Green: you know, that's the main thing, right? I I I just. It just occurred to me
Elisabeth Green: this morning during this meeting that there was a murder And a man was found dead in somebody's private backyard, and turns out that he was the
Elisabeth Green: the person who had coded and put out there. This app for for sobriety is called sober link. That was the name of the app, and it was for all the people in
Elisabeth Green: and with the sobriety community to communicate with each other and mentor each other and and help each other to, you know, like, hey? Get on the app! I'm having trouble. Somebody's offering me a drink, you know that kind of thing. Would you please
Elisabeth Green: help me? be strong enough to tell me. Get get away from me. That kind of thing. But then he was found dead. I was like, why, it just occurred to me today. Why, maybe it's because when he he started using the app, and so people started being able to reach each other on Web 2, they felt
Elisabeth Green: that their their anonymity was in risk.
And I'm wondering if these people might have the same problem
Elisabeth Green: with and Web 3 that he had with Web to.
Erika: Yeah, that's an interesting point. I it makes me wary of these these helpful, you know. helpful sites, or what 3 things that you can go to. It just makes me wary. It's a good, it's
Erika: I. I I think, that that could be a valid reason why that happened for sure.
Erika: okay, the next one is piece inside live.
Erika: This is just this is having to do with the metaiverse Curie, and her joy and peace within your life. It. This is something about maintaining a positive mindset as you're going through life, and it looks like it's tied to the metaverse. And here's the websites. so I don't know exactly what this one's about, but It's called peace insight. Live
Erika: The next one is healing hippie's nfts. this is a collection of 8,888 unique nfts with the power to heal holders of this project get get access to live coaches and specialists to enhance their mind, body and soul. you get, you get an aura that unlocks exclusive portions in the app and access to the heavy verse. So yeah, here's another one that's
Erika: kind of funny kind of interesting. So
Erika: so that was healing hippies.
Erika: And then the fourth one is held. Mind.
Erika: they found it. Okay. So they're actually founded by a license psychotherapist. with a decade of experience. So that seems seems a little seems good in that way. So they have a basic understanding of Web 3. they partner with 40 different brands to support their community health efforts.
so this one looks interesting. I might have to check it out
Erika: and then cool cookies. this is I. What's up with the 8,888? Does anyone know I I've been out of the space for so long. I'm like this has got to be something, because
Erika: it's
Erika: I thought it was usually 10,000 that they do. But now it's day day it. Okay. I think it's a human doctors thing, because I've I've actually done this before. I do it with ones. So Each of my nfts is worth 11,000 or 1112,111, you know, or $1 and 11 cents, or $11, because it's easier to type it out.
Erika: Hmm, okay, okay.
Erika: all right. this is to spread awareness about mental health, and you get access to an exclusive discord. and they got a donation of $10,000. Wow, okay.
Erika: this was in memory of the founder's brother who took his life. So yeah, it looks like there's some history behind this one. interesting name, cool cookies.
Erika: And then the last one is log out center for digital well-being. to create a balance use of the space.
Erika: oh, this is to teach people how to responsibly trade cryptocurrency. get access to online classes, and more. So not really having to do with healthcare. but I know there's a lot of
Erika: a lot of tools out there are like that that are trying to help people learn crypto. So this is another one.
Erika: Digital well-being. All right. Any comments on these.
Erika: Thanks for sharing kind of check it out. Yeah, yeah, check it out. I didn't. I didn't have a ton of time to go through and and really look at what was going on in the space. So if anyone has anything they want to share with the news of blockchain and healthcare this week, please, please. jump in at any time.
Erika: Okay, the last one is Magic raises 52 million in funding, led by paypal ventures. this is a wallet as a service provider. and
Erika: they they've raised a bunch of money. It's it's currently used in brands and retail music, fashion and gaming. including the town. Macy's exola and immutable I think that their main goal is to increase adoption. providing authentic digital ownership opportunities. and they plan to expand functionality. And it's used cases in different integration within the European Union and Asia Pacific region.
So I thought, this is, this doesn't have to do with health care. We actually share this one. I think that this is really, you know, this is really for real. It's gonna it's definitely gonna drive adoption. If it's got ties to these brands.
Erika: So yeah, I think it was. It's a lot of money, and it's paypal. So it's a big deal.
Erika: Any comments on this.
Elisabeth Green: So you'd be able to create your own wallet.
Erika: Yeah, that looks like it. Yeah. And it looks like you'd be able to.
you know, interact with some of these participating and use your crypto for some of these participating
Erika: companies. yeah. create wallets using existing, existing email, social or SMS. So they're making it easy to create a wallet which in I don't know. It kind of scares me, too. But
Erika: yeah.
Erika: So all in my package for user onboarding, which includes authentication. Fiat on rams and ft. Minting and nft checkout
Erika: any more comments on this one?
Erika: Yeah. all right. And then the last thing which I haven't looked at at all this might have been in last week's meeting, too. It's from nature, very technical.
Erika: it's a consultative transaction based blockchain cybersecurity model for health care systems. And I tried to read this. And I was like, Oh, my gosh, this is very technical. But If you're interested, it's just about cyber security.
Erika: it's a different technique called consultant transaction key generation and management to enable secure data sharing in healthcare systems generating a unique key pair based on random values with multiplicative operations and timestamps.
Erika: and it's then stored in discrete blocks of hash values using laptop methodology.
Erika: So if you're interested in that and know a lot about cybersecurity, this is an educational article for you.
Erika: Any comments on this
Erika: Mitch? Well, I don't have anything else. Does anybody have anything they want to share or discuss today.
Elisabeth Green: Yes, I'm putting it in a chat.
Erika: Oh, let me check the chat.
Erika: Okay?
Erika: Okay? So first thing you shared and Nih toughens enforcement of delayed clinical trials reporting agency says, as brought more than 200 cart. Do you want to talk about this one or bring it up?
Elisabeth Green: Sure. So As we know we're what we're doing. Blockchain is going to solve problems for clinical trials, and one of them is the latency of of publishing the information right now.
Elisabeth Green: The the longer the clinical trials in private investigator weights, the more they can capitalize on their investments, so they get the investor to invest money. Then they charge 1,000 for each
Elisabeth Green: procedure in the clinical trial. And then, you know, 10 years later, they're still charging the $3,000 per procedure, even though they have the results of their initial
Elisabeth Green: clinical trials they could publish, and then that publish a results could go to the scientists and doctors who create the standard of care, and then that particular clinical trial procedure could become standard of care, become covered by insurance and become free for most people. But meanwhile they're still charging the $3,000 per procedure and giving that money over to their investors.
Elisabeth Green: So they they they decided to crack down the authorities to say, crack down on this kind of scam and their they they pulled
Elisabeth Green: 200. They didn't really pull their their
Elisabeth Green: their license to provide any future clinical trials. I don't know why, because it's a violation.
Erika: the regulations
Elisabeth Green: and it it is It is punishable by by some kind of a sensor or
Elisabeth Green: some. There gotta be consequences to running this kind of scam. I mean, I can't explain them.
Elisabeth Green: But with blockchain what happens is that the the patient provides the data. The patient owns the data. When the patient puts the data on blockchain and makes it available. That patient can now sell
Elisabeth Green: so that her her before and after data
Elisabeth Green: to anyone she pleases. She doesn't have to wait for the our principal investigator to decide that the investors have had enough
Elisabeth Green: profit, and now they're going to publish their results
Erika: right? It it looks like in here. It says that there's a one year deadline, but the medium for tardiness was 400 days.
Erika: and that only 37% met it.
Erika: So yeah, I I don't know how they're getting away with it. That's
Erika: yeah.
Elisabeth Green: I mean? Yeah. Well, I I've read. What I've read is that
Elisabeth Green: the United States Government is so corrupt you're either a crook, a coward, or a whistleblower. Your job is, you know. That's the cliche. but it it might have some. It actually has. It's been reported that there are
Elisabeth Green: very. I'd be the FDA that whole.
Elisabeth Green: What the health, that whole movie is about that. So I mean it. It's it's quite possible that there are enough
Elisabeth Green: crooks and cowards in in the nih, that
Elisabeth Green: it was it the nih.
Erika: yeah, it says, Nih. She has recently. But wasn't it the Nih? It was recently you got a whistleblower.
Erika: Hmm, I don't know there's so many recordable or yeah, I know. I mean, I used to work in the pharmaceutical industry. So I know all about the levels of corruption going on. It's just sickening.
Elisabeth Green: But yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah. A woman testified that she left the Earth was the Air Force
Elisabeth Green: because of the corruption.
Elisabeth Green: So I mean. I think that that's just. You know, you have to go to the judge's findings before you can really say whether. And everybody's corruptible. It's just a matter of do you have healthy influence in your life and is that healthy influence
Elisabeth Green: something that you choose over the corrupting.
Erika: right?
Erika: Yeah, wow. And even down here, it says that. informed because this talks about how they're not even getting informed consent.
Erika: So yeah, it looks like there's a lot of issues going on. I I I wasn't aware I don't directly work with clinical trials. But yeah, I
Erika: it's crazy. And I think. Yeah, if the patients on their own, you know data around clinical trials that could help a lot like you said, thanks, Elizabeth, and you wouldn't have to
Elisabeth Green: go through their files to find out if they had informed consent, it would all be readily available.
Erika: Right? Right? Yes, it would all be together and available and visible to everyone that needed to see it.
Erika: Well, thanks for sharing Elizabeth. Let me see what else we got in here. I think you had one more thing. Okay. er C, 6, 5, 5, one. Okay, I'll just pull this up.
Erika: Okay, Elizabeth, do you want to talk about this one, too?
Elisabeth Green: Sure, it's just a new token standard. come out by that. If there's come out with
Elisabeth Green: These tokenbound accounts create the smart contract wallet that can do things like hold other wallets in it.
Elisabeth Green: create multiple on chain identities, nfts use and interact with smart contracts, and that
Elisabeth Green: without relying on a wall. It's that
Elisabeth Green: it's sort of a it's a token bound account with while it's in it, if you like.
Elisabeth Green: allowing your various well, it's performed transactions with each other. It kind of makes a sole bound, token, obsolete, I think. What do you think?
Erika: Hmm, yeah, this is interesting. I hadn't. I I didn't know about the 6, 5, 5, one.
Erika: Yeah, it definitely takes. Yeah, it seems like it's taking the capabilities of N ofts to another level. Yeah.
Erika: yeah, I think. So. I agree
Erika: token down accounts. I'm just reading it over.
Erika: Yeah, that's very cool.
Erika: Wow, so you can compose everything into a single
Erika: er C, 6, 5, 5, one. I'll have to look and see how this like look more into technically, how this works, because I I hadn't lived into it yet.
Erika: Thank you so much for sharing this. This is very cool.
Elisabeth Green: And then there's one more article. this is if they found out. Yeah, in the chat they found out.
Elisabeth Green: Somebody did a sort of an analysis of the open source coding, and he was in health, care and all of science, and they found that they just said the statistics.
Elisabeth Green: you most people chose to use Github. Most people chose the mit license.
Elisabeth Green: I don't see that. Is there a link to it? I I don't see it in the chat. actually, I'm not finished reading it, so I don't have the link to it yet. Sorry. No worries. Yeah. You can talk about it. That's that's I mean, that's still open. And one of my is it? It's just
Elisabeth Green: I I I found it interesting that
Elisabeth Green: that people chose the mit license, even though, like the way Hyper Ledger does, even though that means that somebody else could
Elisabeth Green: capitalize on your open source code.
Elisabeth Green: And I kind of wanted to start a conversation about that.
Erika: Okay.
Erika: any other comments on this? I don't. I don't know about about this? Oh, so.
Elisabeth Green: But your is one of these using github with the mit license. So
Elisabeth Green: why I choose the CC. By Nc. Saw it like 4.0 licenses. it's for non-commercial use only. So you and you have to attribute everything that I do.
Elisabeth Green: So you know. You see, you know, when you're you're running your code, and it's slowed down because
Elisabeth Green: some of the coders want funding will. Why did they make their code Mit. or why didn't they make it? CC. By sauce? So you have to give attribution to them whenever you use it?
Elisabeth Green: So I wonder why? Why did Hyper Ledger to the Mit license where anybody could.
Elisabeth Green: is. It isn't the mit license where anybody can
Elisabeth Green: use the code without giving attribution to the Coder and or commercial purposes.
Erika: Yeah, I don't know. That doesn't seem that does seem odd that they would choose that
Elisabeth Green: at first, when I thought I'd be when I first met minutes that I thought I was on the Apache license. But
Elisabeth Green: I've been looking at the licenses now.
Elisabeth Green: so I'm just starting to notice the license doesn't look at them. And then I look at all the list you know of all of the
Elisabeth Green: corporations that use Hyper Ledger's code. And although, like Kalido is one of them.
Elisabeth Green: they do provide a free account for limited purposes.
Elisabeth Green: so that you know it is kind of free. It's it's great, you know. Way. Okay, I I I provided Collider with the code for free. And now they're providing me with a limited account for free
Elisabeth Green: no problem. But when they say that if you want more features, you have to pay
Elisabeth Green: and wait a minute. I wrote the code. Why should I have to pay for it. So that's why I wanted to start a quick.
Erika: Yeah, that's interesting. I don't know.
Erika: Does not seem like
Erika: I don't know why they went that way with it.
Tomaz Sedej: But Elizabeth, I mean Hyper Ledger is using that by 2 license.
Elisabeth Green: Okay?
Elisabeth Green: Because I I have seen on some of the the Github repositories, the mit license.
Tomaz Sedej: Okay, okay, I'll have to look into it. But as far as I'm aware, it was of the Apache tool, and you know, it was a part of the you know. Open source philosophy in general. but let me have a look at it, just to make sure, can I, and is that the one that collide is using, for example and and is and what is the attached to license to have
Elisabeth Green: with respect to
Elisabeth Green: attribution and commercials.
Tomaz Sedej: that I don't know.
Elisabeth Green: Yeah, I haven't looked at the Apache license and years. And it's probably Updated.
Tomaz Sedej: Okay.
Tomaz Sedej: okay, that was the first license I ever looked at. So
Elisabeth Green: you know Wikipedia uses CC. By saw right? So you can use it for any anything you want as long as you give attribution.
Elisabeth Green: Umhm. Yeah, that's right. I'm not an attorney, but I'm I'd like to know a little bit more about it. You see, all of consensus accent. Or you see all the companies using
Elisabeth Green: hyper ledger
Elisabeth Green: and and as far as you know, they're all under the Apache license.
Elisabeth Green: So
Elisabeth Green: what does that mean for the coders that they still have to beg for money through slowing down your your coding experience and telling you that this
Elisabeth Green: code needs funding.
Elisabeth Green: It is anyone else ever you. You're coding. And all of a sudden this code needs funding. It slows you down, and you're like,
Erika: Hmm!
Elisabeth Green: You know, it's like, why didn't they just demand funding in the first place?
Elisabeth Green: So, like, you know, whole foods employees, you know, they should just demand more money. You know your boss is making billions of dollars.
Elisabeth Green: Why does she demand more money? Then you won't have to wait. We have to compete against the homeless people for the free food.
Erika: Yeah.
Erika: yeah, it's interesting, isn't it? So people just do what they're told.
Elisabeth Green: But, Erica, you're actually making if I have to. I kind of personal. I shouldn't bring it up. But I mean there's got to be a way to ask Hyper Ledger for funding. If if you're doing the coding right.
Erika: Yeah, I don't. I? I don't know. I've never done coding for hyper ledger, but and I don't. I?
Erika: Yeah, no, I've no, I've taken some courses, but I've never actually no.
Elisabeth Green: but I mean, if you even if you do the documentation for Heper Ledger.
Elisabeth Green: there's got to be a way to to demand the funding, and and
Elisabeth Green: it seems to me so we demand the funding we apply for the mentorship. We apply for stipend, and when we don't get them. We still keep coming. We still keep contributing. And why do we do that? Is that.
Erika: yeah, I know it's such a purely volunteer situation. yeah.
Erika: it's hard to keep
Elisabeth Green: good.
Erika: Oh, it's hard to keep those types of things up, you know, when you're not getting conferencing
Elisabeth Green: you. You wonder about the quality of the work. And I go to a lot of meetings where people are just basically spouting their own opinions without anything backing me up.
Elisabeth Green: There's no quality control.
Erika: Right? Yeah, it's a hard. It's hard.
Erika: Yeah. I'm not sure what it looks like to get funding. And
Erika: but I do think there should be options for that.
Erika: I I I was one. I thought you were one of the people who were paid. I I went through the list of employees. No, I don't know. I this is purely volunteer. I I haven't really been able to contribute much because I've been so busy with work, and I'm working on some other projects. so yeah, I just, it's hard for me to contribute, you know, to this to this. But I'm glad that I could be here today and host for ray
Erika: big shoes to fill. Because, you know, really in the space. And he's a great, a great host. So yeah, I'm just trying to keep things up all he's away.
Elisabeth Green: Yeah, maybe we could have more meetings. We had one meeting on
Elisabeth Green: just developing a a letter of intent. And it was. It was better attended than any of the other meetings. It's it's just one people a senior people really want to
Elisabeth Green: get funding for hyper ledger because they believe in. And they think it's fun. It's a fun way to interact. It's like a it's like a a Calabathon and never ending Calabathon, you know. And and yet,
Elisabeth Green: how many people are really is. Is there a funding? Is there a funding Sig Special interest group where they actually just work on getting funding all the time.
Erika: That would be. That'd be good, wouldn't it?
Elisabeth Green: I think so. There's a there's a lot of fun. There's a lot of of money out there, especially right now, people focusing on tentag help tech climate take all of this. And and the blockchain technology is is rising. It's about 5% of the total assets of the alumni ventures association.
Elisabeth Green: So it's you only drive them.
Erika: Yeah, I've noticed a lot of like activity and grants and stuff in the dows that I'm into. So
Elisabeth Green: so maybe one of these days we'll have it, or maybe we could turn the the pay your subgroup, the Hyper Ledger, health care specialist group. Pay your subgroup into a fundraising. And it
Erika: where we actually work on that. I I'd like to do that. Yeah, I know, Thomas was asking like, I don't even think the subgroups are active and they're still meetings, but I don't think anyone hosts them. So I go to all of them. You do. Okay, I'm great. Denise goes to every every other one. He goes to all of the patient subgroup meetings, does he? Oh, I remember when he was host.
Erika: Okay? So yeah, so they are. They are active. But they're not very active. Lucky, lucky we get 4 people.
Erika: Yeah, okay.
Erika: that'll change in the future. Thank you very much for hosting. Oh, yeah, thank you guys for coming. And I'm glad we had at least one other person here earlier that contributed and and introduced themselves. So that was great. Any final comments before we close the name?
Erika: Alright. Well, everyone have a great day, and we'll see you in 2 weeks.
Tomaz Sedej: Thank you, Rica.
Erika: Thank you. Bye, bye.
Erika: bye.